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Author Topic: Pre-Medicine  (Read 10082 times)

Katie

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Pre-Medicine
« on: December 11, 2006, 08:16 PM »
Hi,
    I am a high school student form jamaica and i am really interested in medicine. What courses do you advise persons interested in this field  to take in University
?

JHU_Tanmay

  • Full Member
Pre-Medicine
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2006, 10:25 PM »
So first of all (don't know if you already this, but just in case), unlike most other countries, in the US, you have to get a bachelor's degree before you go to medical school. You can get your bachelor's degree in absolutely anything as long as you take certain pre-medical requirements - you have to take:
1 year of general chemistry with lab
1 year of organic chemistry with lab
1 year of physics with lab
1 year of biology with lab
1 year of english/writing
~18-24 credits (6-8 classes) in the humanities/social sciences
Some med schools also ask for a semester of biochemistry and a year of calculus.

Hope that helps!
-Tanmay

JHU_Laura

  • Hopkins Alumni
Pre-Medicine
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2006, 10:26 PM »
Hi Katie,
There are all sorts of courses that you could take if you are interested in medicine!
If you are looking into Pre-Med, then you should take the pre-req courses: Bio, Chem, Organic Chemistry, Calculus, Bio-Chem...etc; however if you are looking for more medicine focused classes you should look at some Public Health classes like Epidemiology or Community Health Promotion.  You could also look into Behavorial Biology classes like Pharmapsychology or Behavorial Medicine. The Biology Department offers an interesting class on Immunobiology and Microbial Pathogenesis.

Often smaller seminars are offered on disease/medicine. For example last semester there was a course taught on Tropical Disease.  I suggest you look through the course catalogue http://www.jhu.edu/registrar/schedule.html for some ideas.

Hope that helps!

JHU_Adam

  • Hopkins Student
Pre-Medicine
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2006, 04:48 PM »
Well as mentioned above, there are certain Med school requirements that need to be met.  Other than that, you should ask yourself this very important question "What am I Interested In?"

If there is a definitive answer to that question (besides becoming a doctor) then you know what you should study and you should take classes that go with that and probably major in that area as well.  If you have no idea, then your first semester (since it's kinda like a Pass/Fail in that no one will ever see your grades, not even med schools, and the only two people who will know what your GPA was is you and your advisor) you should take a whole wide variety of things that sound interesting and find where you think you fit.  
***Word to the wise, if you plan on majoring in something other than sciences, you must be aware that your science GPA is pretty important for med schools and that the MCATS focus primarily on those intro level courses, so you better make sure do well in them.  Not to say that if your a sciece major you don't have to do well, its just that you'll be taking more science classes on top of the intro level ones so your science GPA will have more a balance to it than being soley determined by your 3 intro classes.

"Am I insane? Or am I SO SANE that I JUST BLEW YOUR MIND!"

JHU_Liny

  • Hopkins Student
Pre-Medicine
« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2006, 10:33 PM »
also the university has special pass/fail classes you can choose to take if you're pre-med that you can learn about at the Pre-professional advising office....this includes two credits pass/fail where you can shadow a doctor and up to three credits worth of research you can do at a lab per semester :-)
Liny
Class of 2009
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sweetgabby60

  • Newbie
Pre-Medicine
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2007, 08:18 PM »
Hello everyone,

Does anyone know if John Hopkins has a Pre-Med major?
If not...what majors can I do, that will qualify the Medicine program...
Could I do Biology? Physics? Chemistry?

Thanks in advance

 :)

JHU_Adam

  • Hopkins Student
Pre-Medicine
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2007, 10:59 PM »
Hey there

I'm Pre-Med as well so i think i can help. 

1. Hopkins does not have a Pre-med Major. 
2. You can do ANY MAJOR and still fulfill Med school requirements.  Your major should not be about medicine, it should be directed towards the area of study you enjoy learning about most.  You can go to med school having majored in English (which one of my friends is doing) or you can do it while majoring in Bio (Like I'm doing).  Choose a major because you enjoy the subject, not because its gonna help you get into med school

"Am I insane? Or am I SO SANE that I JUST BLEW YOUR MIND!"

JHU_Blake

  • Hopkins Student
Pre-Medicine
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2007, 03:44 PM »
The public health major (natural science focus), has every prerequisite for medical included in its required classes for graduation, in addition to classes like epidemiology, biostats, health policy, etc... Like everyone else said, you can fulfill your requirements in any major- public health is just the one that the cool kids major in.  ;)

eileen

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Pre-Medicine
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2007, 07:16 PM »
If I were to apply in this field as an undergraduate, would I be enrolled in the Krieger School of Arts and Sciences, or not necessarily?

JHU_Tanmay

  • Full Member
Pre-Medicine
« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2007, 08:35 PM »
Which field? You can choose any major in the School of Arts and Sciences or School of Engineering and still be pre-med if you take the required classes listed above

eileen

  • Newbie
Pre-Medicine
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2007, 10:14 PM »
well, my goal is to try to get into biomedical research, hopefully cancer research.  i want to try starting out as a biology major.

JHU_Jermaine

  • Hopkins Student
Pre-Medicine
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2007, 12:20 AM »
If you decided to be a biology major, then you would be in the school of Arts and Crafts (I mean Sciences). If you decided to do Engineering (ie. Biomedical engineering), you would be under the guidance of the Whiting School of Engineering...From what I've seen, it doesn't really matter socially whether you are a Arts and Sciences major or an Engineering major. The Hopkins campus is pretty integrated, and I am often surprised when I find out one of my friends is an Engineer.

But, yes. Tanmay was right. You don't really need to major in a science (or engineering, or humanities) to be pre-med. No track is the "right" track...it all depends on you.
Jermaine
Class of '09

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kc8198

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Pre-Medicine
« Reply #12 on: April 08, 2008, 02:35 AM »
I'm having trouble deciding between Biology and Public Health (Natural Sciences). Both fulfill the requirements for pre-med but I'm not sure which one is more suitable for me. I'm afraid that Biology will suffocate me with sciences but Public Health will only be the bare minimum. Can anyone who is currently majoring in either one offer some advice?

Admissions_Daniel

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Pre-Medicine
« Reply #13 on: April 08, 2008, 10:02 AM »
Quote from: "kc8198"
I'm having trouble deciding between Biology and Public Health (Natural Sciences). Both fulfill the requirements for pre-med but I'm not sure which one is more suitable for me. I'm afraid that Biology will suffocate me with sciences but Public Health will only be the bare minimum. Can anyone who is currently majoring in either one offer some advice?
I'm going to let you in on a little secret ... you don't have to decide now what major you are going to pursue. In fact, you have until the end of your sophomore year to decide.

Come to Hopkins ... explore both Biology and Public Health courses ... explore some other programs as well ... talk to faculty ... talk to academic advising ... then decide what is the right path FOR YOU. No one can tell you what program is going to work better for you, it is such a personal decision. That is why the curriculum at Hopkins is so flexible.

JHU_Phil

  • Hopkins Student
Pre-Medicine
« Reply #14 on: April 08, 2008, 03:05 PM »
I am making sure that I take a non-traditional path to becoming a doctor. Not certain what it is, but I would have done things a bit differently. Probably take most of the pre-med courses over the summer to free up more time to take a greater variety of classes during the year. Time off....public health...certificates in public health...etc.
Phil C. '08
"So long, and thanks for all the fish."
(read my blog)

koalager

  • Newbie
Pre-Medicine
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2008, 11:22 PM »
I'm looking to be a Psych major with a minor in Chinese.  I also may want to go to Med School.  Is this possible?  Does anyone have experience in these areas?  Thanks!

koalager

  • Newbie
Pre-Medicine
« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2008, 12:35 PM »
How hard is it?  What are classes like? What are the professors like?  What are the kids like who take the classes?  Is it doable to be a pre-med major and pursue other non-scientific interests?

JHU_MichelleB

  • Hopkins Alumni
Pre-Medicine
« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2008, 07:24 PM »
It's completely possible to be pre-med and explore your non-science interests. I'm a Neuroscience major, who's pre-med, yet I still had time to do a Theater minor, a Music minor, AND to study abroad. I've also taken classes outside my majors and minors, like "Perspectives on the Evolution of Structures" and "Constitutional Law"

The pre med curriculum, if you think about it, isn't THAT time consuming in terms of credits (though they tend to be the hardest classes of your curriculum so you do have to be careful not to overload when you're taking like, physics and organic chem at the same time). Most people are done with their hard sciences by their senior year, so there's a lot of time then to take fun classes. My friends who are pre-med seniors who didn't study abroad have jokes of schedules this semester. One of them is taking "Photoshop", "The Biology of Aids", "Expository writing", and a Synapses class in the Neuroscience department. (Well, that last one isn't a joke, but you get the picture)

Another pre-med friend is taking "Sleep, Dreams, and Altered States", "Medicine and Society" (basically learning that lower income families have worse medical care....every week, all weeks), "The Biology of Aids", and "Animal Behavior". Yeah.

In short- it's completely possible to be pre-med and pursue other things.


JHU_Roxi

  • Hopkins Student
Pre-Medicine
« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2008, 10:58 AM »
Depending on if you want to study abroad a semester, you can potentially have a lot of wiggle room in your schedule.

I'm Public Health/Latin American Studies/Pre-med and I'll be studying abroad next spring. What's nice about your Chinese major is that you could go abroad and, depending on the classes you want to take, they could potentially cross over and count for major requirements (that's what I'm doing while I'm abroad).

Just make sure you sit down with your academic advisor and the requirements for both majors and make sure it can be done in time. So that I could take my MCAT my junior year and hopefully go straight from Hopkins to med school and study abroad and double major I had to take physics over the summer, but I'm glad I did! So definitely look at your summers as potential distribution credit time but stick with the non-science major, you'll be glad you did, my Latin American studies classes are a welcome distraction from my hard-core sciences (i.e. orgo and biochem/cell bio!)
Class of 2010!!!
Public Health (Natural Sciences)/Latin American Studies Major
P.S. More on the craziness on my blog: http://hopkins.typepad.com/roxi/!!!

chrispaul3

  • Newbie
Pre-Medicine
« Reply #19 on: May 28, 2008, 06:27 PM »
Hi, my name is David, and I am a rising high school senior who is looking at Johns Hopkins. I have a few questions about pre-med academics at Hopkins:

First of all, how does the GPA system work at Hopkins? Do they give you like a 3.8 for an A- and 4.0 for an A or do they give like 3.0 for a B, 4.0 for an A? Is it hard to get an A in science classes at Hopkins? And do you know what kinds of grades students typically get? Is there like an average GPA for pre-med students or something?
 
The reason I'm asking those questions is because I plan on going to medical school after college, and in order to get in a good medical school, it seems that your college gpa is extremely important. My dad's friends have told stories about a kid with a 3.2 from Yale not getting accepted to any medical schools while another kid who graduated with honors from the University of Georgia got accepted to the top medical schools.

Can anyone give me some insight into Hopkins' academics, especially in the science department? Or can anyone give me the contact information of someone else at Hopkins
who would be able to answer my question?

Admissions_Daniel

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Pre-Medicine
« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2008, 09:26 AM »
Answers to your questions can actually be found on a number of other current discussion threads:

Grading Policies:
http://www.jhu.edu/design/oliver/academic_manual/grades.html

Grade Deflation/Lack of Inflation
http://www.hopkins-interactive.com/forums/fact-or-fiction/grade-deflationlack-of-inflation/


chrispaul3

  • Newbie
Pre-Medicine
« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2008, 03:03 PM »
Wow, thanks, those links helped a lot.

I have two more questions though.

Take an average Hopkins student. What do you think his or her GPA at Hopkins would be?

And does anybody know how many percent of Hopkins students who are pre-med get an acceptance to medical school by graduation?

Admissions_Daniel

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Pre-Medicine
« Reply #22 on: May 30, 2008, 09:21 AM »
Quote from: "chrispaul3"
Take an average Hopkins student. What do you think his or her GPA at Hopkins would be?

And does anybody know how many percent of Hopkins students who are pre-med get an acceptance to medical school by graduation?
There is no such thing as an "average" Hopkins student. GPAs range greatly here because there is such a mix of academic programs at Hopkins. The grade ranges vary greatly from the Humanities, to Engineering, to the Social Sciences, to the Natural Sciences. More significantly, since there is no set core curriculum and our students have such a wide range of flexibility -- determining "typical" GPAs is nearly impossible. And if you do get an "average" GPA it will not really tell you anything about the students at Hopkins nor the academic programs.

In the last five years, the medical school acceptance rate has ranged from 86-94% for students completing the pre-health advising program. More information here: http://web.jhu.edu/prepro/prospective.html

JHU_Julia

  • Hopkins Alumni
Pre-Medicine
« Reply #23 on: May 30, 2008, 10:22 PM »
A Hopkins student's GPA depends pretty directly on how much work they do...

If we were to tell you that the average GPA was x.xx it wouldn't have much bearing on your performance or anyone else's, for that matter.  If you don't do your work, you won't have a good GPA regardless of what the University average is.  My point is, if you are concerned about your GPA just do your homework, study for your exams and hand in your assignments on time.  That usually helps you end up with great grades!

Don't sweat it.  If you're doing well in high school, as I'm sure you are, just keep doing what you're doing.
~Julia~
Hopkins Class of 2009
Check out my blog here! Julia's Journal

EJ34

  • Newbie
Pre-Medicine
« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2009, 07:34 PM »
Hello I am a junior in high school now and I am really considering JHU for college. My goal in life is to become a doctor, yet I am not sure what kind yet. I am interested in neuroscience greatly and always considered being a pediatrician too. Right now i live in NY and have a 4.0 gpa while taking many AP's, such as ap chemistry and next year ap biology. I love chemistry, biology, and math. I have many questions regarding the school...
1) Do I HAVE to take physics in high school?
2) What are the class sizes like in the typical "pre-med" science classes?
3) What are the classes like? (ex. Do the teachers lecture all class, how are the labs, etc.)
4) Since I have pretty good study habits now and a very good work ethic, will I be ok at this college? (I'm nervous it will be too difficult!)
Thanks!