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Author Topic: Questions about AP / IB credits  (Read 5858 times)

rachelaf217

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Questions about AP / IB credits
« on: March 14, 2007, 06:00 PM »
I am trying to figure out which AP exams to take for next year...I've seen the list of which courses/scores Hopkins gives credit for, but am confused about the meaning of "credit".

Do AP credits allow you to place out of a class completely, or do they just move you up to the next level, or does it depend on the major? I'm planning on majoring in international studies, and the exams I'm wondering about are AB Calc and Statistics.

Thanks!

JHU_Beverly

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Questions about AP / IB credits
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2007, 06:37 PM »
"Credits", in the case of Hopkins, means your actually receive credit for the class, as if you were taking it at JHU. For example, I took AP Calculus BC during my junior of high school and received the credits for the corresponding courses at Hopkins (Calculus I and II). So that gave me 8 credits and I didn't have to take the those two courses...thank goodness. :D

In your case, for AB Calc if you were to score a 4 or 5 on the exam, you would receive 4 credits towards your major/graduation requirements and you would not be required to take the course if you were to come to Hopkins. The same process would also be used for Statistics.

Hope this helps! I know AP exams save a TON of time and money so it's great that your looking at exams ahead of time.  B)

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JHU_Tanmay

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Questions about AP / IB credits
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2007, 08:22 PM »
Bev basically covered everything about AP credits, but just a couple caveats. If you want to use foreign language AP credit and take more of that foreign language, you'll have to take a online placement test (see here) regardless of your score. Also, (doesn't apply to the OP but maybe to someone else?) if you want to major in physics, its recommended that you talk to a Physics professor and discuss what your AP physics class covered before you decide whether to use your AP Physics C credit or take special freshman physics classes for physics majors.

rachelaf217

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Questions about AP / IB credits
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2007, 09:19 PM »
Thanks guys, your answers were really helpful. I guess its quite worth it to take the tests then in that case!

sraphim

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Questions about AP / IB credits
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2007, 12:44 AM »
hi, i know everybody is coming to JHU with lots ap credits, but how many of them actually use those ap credits to skip those intro classes such as frosh chem, calc 1?
i took most of my ap course back in soph and junior years, but to be honest i already forgot most of those materials by now. however im sure i can easily pick them up again once i read the books, so i kinda feel that taking those classes again is a waste of time.
i really need advices and ii want to know what did you guys do about this situation back in ur freshmen year. did u study over the summer to review all those stuff or did u just take those intro classes again? do most incoming freshmen take calc 1, frosh chem, mechanics?

JHU_Jermaine

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Questions about AP / IB credits
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2007, 10:48 AM »
I used my AP and IB credits to place out of Chemistry and Spanish. Although I took 3 years of chem in high school (including the IB and AP chem courses) I thought that chemistry at Hopkins would be way more difficult than my high school experience. So, what do I do? I decide to retake Chem. I fall semester of freshman year. IT WAS SOOOOOO BORING, b/c I had already learned all the material in high school.

So, my advice is, if you can, you should use your AP/IB credits and take upper-level courses in that area instead. And, although I am no medical school admissions rep. (nor do I pretend to be), a lot of medical schools that I've heard speak at Hopkins say that they expect that if you test out of a class through AP that you'll take the upper-level version of that course. IN addition, although I'm not sure, I think that California medical schools, as well as some others, don't accept  AP credits regardless of whether you take upper-level courses in the subject. (I just found out that the university of Florida doesn't accept AP credit for Chemistry...) Anyways, take the upper class and then you can simply drop down to the introductory course if you find it too difficult.
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sraphim

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« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2007, 11:53 AM »
thanks for your help, btw do you get to talk to a counselor to help select your courses just like in high school?

JHU_Tanmay

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Questions about AP / IB credits
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2007, 12:22 PM »
You register for your freshman year fall classes over the summer and then your course selections get reviewed by your adviser. However, if you email Academic Advising or Engineering Advising around registration time (June, I believe), they will definitely help you pick classes and figure out what works best for you. Plus, there are 26 of us (students) here who have gone through a huge range of courses and can probably answer a lot of your questions.

JHU_Liny

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Questions about AP / IB credits
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2007, 12:25 AM »
yepp definately contact advising about questions! they're very helpful

i actually came into Hopkins with ALOT of credits (almost 50) so I hope I can help you out here...i agree with jermaine, don't retake classes you AP'd out of, esp if you feel you can easily brush up on it over the summer...i actually just came back from a pre-health panel this evening where one of the pre-health advisors urged us not to retake classes we AP'd out of...instead, like jermaine said, just take upper level classes if your AP credit does not count towards med school (i.e. genetics if you AP'd out of bio)

plus, it might just be torture to retake classes in college since it won't be as easy as when you took it in highschool...plus it's nice to know you have those credits out of the way

trust me, i thought i forgot everything i learned in those AP classes i took sophomore and junior year of highschool but it all came back to me when i took the upper level classes...alot of times the professor even reviews for the first week or two the basic concepts from the pre-req classes that you are expected to know
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sraphim

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Questions about AP / IB credits
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2007, 02:21 AM »
Quote from: "JHU_Liny"


plus, it might just be torture to retake classes in college since it won't be as easy as when you took it in highschool...plus it's nice to know you have those credits out of the way

 
thx Liny! your comment is really helpful.
btw about the MCAT, is it most about basic science classes and require a solid foundation in basic chem, physics, calc?

luadam4c

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« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2007, 12:27 PM »
Quote from: "JHU_Tanmay"
Plus, there are 26 of us (students) here who have gone through a huge range of courses and can probably answer a lot of your questions.
Does this mean we can ask about the details of specific courses we see on the catalog?

JHU_Liny

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Questions about AP / IB credits
« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2007, 05:02 PM »
yepp you're exactly right....mcat's concentrate on the basic sciences (bio, chem, physics, and orgo) along with verbal questions and a writing section

haha and yea you can ask us about specific classes and we can tell you about our personal experiences with them, which might be helpful! :-)
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sraphim

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« Reply #12 on: April 06, 2007, 08:54 PM »
Quote from: "luadam4c"
Does this mean we can ask about the details of specific courses we see on the catalog?
can u give me the link to the catalog please? i want to take a look at it too

JHU_Kate

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Questions about AP / IB credits
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2007, 09:50 PM »
Quote from: "sraphim"
can u give me the link to the catalog please? i want to take a look at it too
http://catalog.jhu.edu/
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fender.man

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Questions about AP / IB credits
« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2007, 11:49 PM »
If I get credit through AP scores, do the scores go into my GPA?

JHU_MichelleT

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Questions about AP / IB credits
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2007, 12:01 AM »
Nope. Your score only determines whether you get credit, nothing else.

You don't get any grade of any sort assigned, just credit (and distribution designators, if applicable) toward graduation.
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JHU_Lauren

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Questions about AP / IB credits
« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2007, 11:30 PM »
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My advice regarding APs, take as many credits as you can get and run with them. For me, it freed up a lot of time to pursue a minor.
I wish I did that!  Still, I can't complain: I submitted scores from AP Calculus AB and AP Statistics and now have 8 credits that I can probably use towards distribution requirements {a certain number of credits you have to take in areas outside your major -- because I'm English/Writing Sems, mine have to be in Natural/Quantitative Sciences or Engineering}.  You'll need a 4 or a 5, and you'll also want to make sure that the test you take is eligible for credit here.  That's my little bit of advice -- I submitted a 4 for AP Gov. in addition to the other two and, unfortunately, Hopkins doesn't give credit for that.  :(  So make sure you check!  But, also, don't feel like you'll be behind everyone else if you come in WITHOUT AP credits.  They aren't required, and you definitely have plenty of time to meet the requirements for a major {and a minor if you want!} if you plan it out.  They just make it even easier to take the classes that you want to take!  ;)
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JHU_Roxi

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Questions about AP / IB credits
« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2007, 02:59 PM »
Hey so I know a lot has been said already - but here's a little food for thought for people that are thinking about using their AP credits not to take intro level courses:

I've got a bunch of friends who are Juniors and Seniors and are working on their MCAT prep stuff and something I've realized is that, surprise surprise, there's a reason Hopkins is one of the best pre-med schools in the nation. A lot of people I've talked to say things like, "oh, I wish I hadn't AP'd out of Bio - now I have to work really hard to learn the systems" or people in my Orgo class who are having a really hard time right now because it's been a year since they took AP Chem.

Granted I totally understand that no freshman wants to be bored and retake a class, but from where I'm standing, and especially for major or med-school required classes, you're going to be at Hopkins, might as well take advantage of the excellent education here.
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tewodros

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« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2009, 12:20 AM »
hello i am deciding to take AP biology and chemistry my junior year mainly for the Challenge not much the college credit and was wondering  if i were to get a 4 or 5 on these tests should i use the credits or take the classes again if i become a student at Johns Hopkin  . I really cant decide even though im not there yet but i was thinking that since im taking these classes in 11th grade and there would a a time gap (12th grade)where  i might forget some things . so i was wondering whether i  should take the classes again.

JHU_Kate

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Questions about AP / IB credits
« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2009, 10:33 PM »
Quote from: "tewodros"
hello i am deciding to take AP biology and chemistry my junior year mainly for the Challenge not much the college credit and was wondering  if i were to get a 4 or 5 on these tests should i use the credits or take the classes again if i become a student at Johns Hopkin  . I really cant decide even though im not there yet but i was thinking that since im taking these classes in 11th grade and there would a a time gap (12th grade)where  i might forget some things . so i was wondering whether i  should take the classes again.
I suggest that if (1) you want to and (2) your high school guidance counselor thinks it's a good idea, then go ahead and take AP Biology and AP Chemistry in your junior year of high school (i.e., Grade 11). Please make sure you discuss this with your high school guidance counselor and/or the appropriate science teachers (e.g., your current science teachers or the teachers who teach those two AP courses) first.

Meanwhile, you can worry about whether you'll need to re-take either subject during your freshman year of college once you're actually a freshman in college. That would be the time when you can discuss the issue with your academic advisor. Keep in mind that I've known students who've found that they might be better off re-taking courses for which they received AP credits, and I've also known students who've decided to utilize their AP credit. Basically, you'll have to see how comfortable you feel with the material.

But for now, you can just worry about taking courses in high school that you find enjoyable and challenging--and about doing well in high school. :)
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JHU_Laura

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« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2009, 05:57 PM »
Kate is right on. If you are interested in the class, then go ahead and take it!

It also doesn't hurt to take the AP test if you have done all the hard work for the class--if you still feel comfortable with the subject material when you get to college, maybe you'll want to pass on the intro level--but if you want a refresher, then it doesn't hurt to take it again in college--you'll solidify your knowledge and really understand the material!

JHU_Wafa

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« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2009, 02:20 PM »
I agree with both Julia and Kate, and wanted to offer the perspective of a freshmen who didn't use my IB credit for either IB Biology HL or IB Chemistry HL. While both AP and IB offer a strong footing in these sciences, it is really up to your discretion whether or not you believe they adequately prepare you for the higher level sciences that you would take if you passed Introduction to Chemistry and General Biology.

If you breeze through either class and barely have to try at all, then perhaps you have a natural ability and it would be beneficial to you to not take the intro classes. Also, if you are interested in pre-medical requirements, there is a requirement of two years of chemistry and so students that pass over the intro year, have to take a combination of a year of Organic Chemistry, a semester of Biochemistry, and others like Thermodynamics or Physical Chemistry.

Just some food for thought.
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FaithLCT

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« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2010, 03:16 PM »
Hello,
 
I have a few questions about ap credits and major requirements at JHU.
 
Regarding ap credits, does a limit exist on how many ap credits one can receive?  Furthermore, can one apply ap credits to fulfill a major?
 
I noticed on the JHU site, it says, "Distribution Requirements for Majors: These cannot include major requirements or courses."  Does this apply to those who double-major as well?  I intend to double major in neuroscience and philosophy -- could I use my neuroscience credits to fulfill the distribution requirements for philosophy and vice versa?  Could I use one course outside of both major requirements to fulfill distribution requirements for both majors?  How do distribution requirements work for those who double-major?
 
Thank you!

JHU_Joe

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« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2010, 03:41 PM »
Hey FaithLCT! I don't think there is a limit to the amount of AP Credits one can receive, this is mostly because AP credits are considered to be different from transfer credits (there's a limit to the amount of transfer credits you can use). You can most definitely apply AP Credits to fulfill a major requirement or multiple major requirements. For example, I am a Neuroscience major and I am require to complete Calculus I and II as well as Chemistry I and II with the lab components. Since I got a 5 on my AP Calculus BC and AP Chemistry exam I don't have to take any of the above courses and I can still count them towards my major requirements. So instead of starting off in Chemistry like most of the people I know who are Neuroscience majors did I started off in Physics and Calculus III.

As for distribution requirements for double majors, since you plan on double majoring in Neuroscience and Philosophy you could use the major requirements for Neuroscience to fulfill the distribution requirements for Philosophy and vice-versa. You could also use one course that is outside of both of the aforementioned majors to satisfy the distribution requirements for both majors, but you would most likely want to use the courses from each of your majors to overlap.

Some sites that might be helpful for you to look at:

The Academic Advising Manual on AP/IB Credit: http://www.jhu.edu/advising/academic_manual/credit.html
The Admissions Guide to AP/IB Credit: http://apply.jhu.edu/apply/apib.html

Please let me know if you would like more information on anything or if I was unclear in my response.
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JHU_Sarah

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« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2010, 09:13 PM »
Joe's response probably answered your question, but just to add my two cents - having the AP credits and being able to skip certain classes and place into higher level classes your freshman year means that there will be more room in your junior/senior year to study abroad or pursue a double major or minor, so do your best on those AP exams!
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