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Author Topic: Meet JHU_Jacqueline-Las Vegas, NV  (Read 589 times)

JHU_Jacqueline

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Meet JHU_Jacqueline-Las Vegas, NV
« on: September 30, 2011, 12:23 AM »
Hi everyone!  I'm Jacqueline, a Freshman from Las Vegas, NV, and I'm an International Studies major (possible Economics double major or minor) on the pre-law track, but I'm really, really obsessed with literature, foreign languages, and diseases too, so ask me anything that doesn't have to do with math!
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Why Hopkins?
A combination of the location and the students.  First off, the location cannot be beat for students looking for internships and jobs in government, especially international relations.  I knew early on when applying to colleges that, no matter how good the school claimed to be, if it was in the middle of nowhere it would be very difficult for me to have any exciting adventures off-campus.  Second,the warmth of the student body is very visible here.  While attending SOHOP this April, I was able to sit in on an Arabic class, and after class was over the girl sitting next to me began talking to me, asking me how I liked the school, did I need directions anywhere, did I have someone to sit with me at lunch? 

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My Classes

Fall 2011:

History of Occidental Civilization: Europe and the Wider World
International Politics
Expository Writing: Analyzing Debates in International Relations
Freshman Seminar: The Nobel Prizes in Medicine and Chemistry
First Year Arabic

Spring 2012

First Year Arabic
Beginning Persian
Comparative Sociology of Religious Fundamentalism
Zionism, Post-Zionism, and Modern Hebrew Literature
Freshman Seminar: US-USSR Cold War

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My Extracurriculars

-Mock Trial:currently a double attorney for prosecution and defense, basically a really fun way to have an excuse to look at case law and work together with your teammates.  Also an excuse for me to wear heels and be taller than five feet tall (always a plus!)

-Debate: I spend a lot of my week writing new debate cases for my tournaments over the weekend, ranging in subject from the morality of Manifest Destiny to if internet access is a fundamental right.  A really fun way to get used to thinking on your feet and to gain a lot of knowledge of a wide range of subject areas in the process.

-Johns Hopkins University Model United Nations Conference: I help run a model United Nations tournament for high school students.  The topic for my committee is human rights in the year 2030, and deals with how things such as climate change and genetic engineering will change human rights.   

-Undergraduate Admissions Videographer/Editor: keeping up with my hobby of videography, I get the chance to run around with JHU_Joe, JHU_Lucie, JHU_Nick, and JHU_Noah filming Learn More, See More, B'More along with a bunch of other cool projects. 

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My Dorm
I live in AMR I Wood House right down the hall from JHU_Kevin, with a really cool roommate, and a stuffed green triceratops named after a character from The West Wing.  You could say I am a very lucky girl. 

Jacqueline M.
Class of 2015
International Studies
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epenati

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Re: Meet JHU_Jacqueline-Las Vegas, NV
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2012, 12:33 PM »
Hi! I was recently accepted under the Early Decision plan to the Johns Hopkins Class of 2016 and am super excited to attend! I also decided to commit to the International Studies major but am feeling a little lost in trying to figure out the whole language thing/requirement. All four years of high school I took Latin, so that would probably not work to fulfill my language requirement (as I'm supposed to be proficient in a language). So I am now debating between studying French or Chinese, but am totally unsure for several reasons:
1.) At what point am I supposed to be proficient is a language (after four years? after my sophomore year?)
2.) Is it even possible to become completely proficient in a whole new language after just four years?
3.) Chinese seems more practical in the future esp. for this major but I believe French would be easier?

Sorry I have a bunch of questions I'm just a little confused and trying to plan out my summer now to see if I should take some sort of language program during it. Thank you so much for your help!

JHU_Jacqueline

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Re: Meet JHU_Jacqueline-Las Vegas, NV
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2012, 09:48 PM »
Hey epenati.  Congratulations on your acceptance!  Unfortunately I'm not certain if Latin would count for language proficiency as required by the International Studies major because it's generally not considered a modern language.  If you wanted to continue your Latin education, the Classics department does offer courses in Latin, but I would argue that French or Chinese would definitely be more useful as an International Studies major, or really any other major you wanted to pursue.  I understand your indecision between the two languages, as I'm currently having the same mini existential crisis in regards to pursuing double proficiency in Arabic/Chinese or Arabic/Persian. 
   
1.) When are you supposed to be proficient? 
   
   The tricky thing with this is determining what "proficient" means to you.  I consider proficiency to be able to hold a normal conversation with a native speaker, read something relatively straightforward like a newspaper, and write an email in that language.  The International Studies major requires that you take one year of a language beyond the intermediate level, and since you will be placing into either French or Chinese as a first-year you can assume that this means three years of language classes, unless you plan on studying abroad and skipping classes that way.  I don't believe there is any point in which you are required to be proficient, per se, but your proficiency is shown by your grade in the language class and what level class you are in.  I would argue that the only point in which you would have a deadline for proficiency would be if you were planning on studying abroad (http://web.jhu.edu/study_abroad/programs/index_static.html.)  This is something you can work on with an adviser when you enroll at Hopkins, because there are just so many options it's hard to tell at this point at what time period you'll be going abroad.  Some go during the summer, some go a semester, some go a year, some go the second semester of their freshman year, some go during Intersession. 
   
2. I would argue that it's quite possible to be proficient in a whole new language in just four years, especially if you take advantage of study abroad opportunities and don't let yourself forget the language over your breaks.  The biggest difference I've seen in language education in college compared to high school (five years of Spanish) is that the intensity of the class is a lot higher.  There's a lot more focus on test/quiz grades, and usually the Latin alphabet-based language classes (Spanish, French, German, Italian, etc.) make you write analysis papers during some points, while the non-Latin alphabet language classes (Chinese, Arabic, Japanese, Korean, Russian, Persian, etc.) don't do as much essay writing the first semester because a lot of the first semester is getting you used to the new writing system.  Additionally, a lot of first-year language classes meet nearly every day a week, so there's no break from the language where you have a chance to lose it.  We also have this cool place called the Language Lab (http://www.langlab.jhu.edu) where you can go and watch television and movies in whatever language you want, and even talk to your professors in that language.  There are also a ton of language emersion programs for study abroad, so there are a lot of chances to practice, practice, practice.  From personal experience, I've gone from knowing barely five phrases in spoken Arabic to being able to decently read, (in an language where you essentially have to guess what short vowels are contained within the word because they aren't written out) write in a whole new alphabet, and carry on basic conversations about my hobbies, the weather, my schoolwork, my family, etc.  You really do learn an awful lot in a semester compared to high school. 
   
3. I preface this analysis by saying that I've never taken French or Chinese at this point and am personally rather biased toward Chinese due to my weird obsession with different writing systems.  That being said, what language you study, like a lot of parts of your college experience, is really what you make of it.  There are policy jobs in D.C. that require you to be fluent in Chinese and there are jobs at French restaurants in Baltimore that require you to know French, but there are also programs where you teach English to Chinese students in China and jobs at research centers that require you to know French because they work with the euro/international monetary policy a lot.  There's no one language that will automatically doom you and no one language that by virtue of studying it will guarantee that you'll become National Security Adviser.  It's all about the effort you're willing to put in and what career options you want to explore.   
   
Now of course the second you read "effort" your mind will probably jump to how hard these languages are going to be.  Having studied both a Romance language written in the Latin alphabet and a Semitic language written in an abjad (alphabet system that does not mark short vowels in writing) that's considered one of the hardest languages for non-native speakers to learn, I think that the main difference in difficulty you'll see from Chinese and French is that of the writing/grammar system at first.  Non-Latin alphabet languages seem to have a very, very steep learning curve in the first few weeks while you learn the alphabet, (or in the case of Chinese the characters) but once you can read the language like you read the latin alphabet that learning curve tends to even out a bit.  From my friends' experiences in languages like French, the learning curve is a lot more smooth, but you still have to put effort in.  Neither language is going to be easy, per se, but I will be candid and say that knowing how to read the alphabet that French is written in will make it easier.  Chinese has thousands of characters that you will have to learn, (I believe you need to know 3,000 characters to read basic literature) and you will be tested weekly, sometimes more than once a week, on those characters.  Chinese will also meet more time per week (5 times) than French (I believe only three times per week) because you need as much practice in the first year as possible (my Arabic works the same way.)
   
So I guess the question for you is going to be if Chinese is worth the extra work or if French will be just as useful without daily classes and an entirely new writing system.  I can honestly say that I don't know what type of international studies program you're going to pursue.  The major is structured in such a way that, after a few core classes like elements of micro and macro and history of occidental civilization, you can tailor it to your interests, be them more of a security-type, international economics, area studies, etc.  I don't know if you're going to want to end up working on development economics in Africa and need French or if you want to work for the State Department and need Chinese.  I know this is probably the last thing you want to hear when you're trying to decide between languages, especially if you are not sure what kind of international studies area you see yourself pursuing, but really that's what it comes down to.  Regardless of what you choose, there will be plenty of resources available and study abroad locations possible.  There is a JHU in Nanjing program (http://nanjing.jhu.edu) as well as the ability to spend your junior year at Sciences Po (http://web.jhu.edu/study_abroad/programs/hopkinsSciencesPo.html).

This is super long but it's just a lot of stuff to think about.  On the subject of summer programs, I just bought my Arabic textbook early and taught myself the alphabet before I moved in and it helped an awful lot.  You could definitely do that with Chinese, but I don't know if that experience is applicable to French.  As far as taking an official summer language course, I don't know if I would take it at an introductory level.  You really need a LOT of practice when first learning a language because that is what the rest of your study is based off of, so you don't want to take any shortcuts or rush it. 

Hope this helps! 
Jacqueline M.
Class of 2015
International Studies
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epenati

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Re: Meet JHU_Jacqueline-Las Vegas, NV
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2012, 10:22 PM »
Ahh thank you so much for your help! I really appreciate it and it definitely helped clear up a lot of confusion for me! I think I'm leaning towards French at this point but am not cutting out Chinese completely yet! Thank you!!

BlancheBunny103

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Re: Meet JHU_Jacqueline-Las Vegas, NV
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2012, 02:08 AM »
Hi Jacqueline
I love languages. I'm quite intrigued to see that you take Arabic. How do you find it so far? How hard is it compare to Chinese and French (I'm proficient in both languages).

Pls tell me more about your experiences at AMR. Do you find it uncomfy there without AC?

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Re: Meet JHU_Jacqueline-Las Vegas, NV
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2012, 10:47 AM »
Hi BlancheBunny.  As I stated in one of the earlier posts in the thread, I've never taken a class in either Chinese or French so I can't really tell you how hard it is compared to those two languages.  If you choose to take Arabic even if you are proficient in Chinese and French you'll still have the same difficulty as everyone else in the class in that you'll need to learn an entirely new alphabet system.  Even with your knowledge of non-Latin based languages like Chinese, the logosyllabic script you use in Chinese is very different from the abjad of Arabic script.  In the end, it's going to come down to memorization of the script/vocabulary words/grammar rules just like every other language. 

I like the AMRs.  In Vegas we routinely hit temperatures in the 110's for three or four months out of the year, so maybe I'm not the best person to be asking about the no AC situation, but I will tell you that the AMRs are very conveniently located on campus.  I can get to any of my classes, the gym, the cafeteria, or the bookstore within 10 minutes because I'm very centrally located on campus.  A lot of people living in the AMRs get really close with members of their house just like people in Wolman get close to people on their floor, so you really can't go wrong with any dorm you pick. 
Jacqueline M.
Class of 2015
International Studies
If you think I'm crazy here, you must not be familiar with my blog.
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Daren15

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Re: Meet JHU_Jacqueline-Las Vegas, NV
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2012, 12:43 AM »
I was wondering which exams does JHU requires from the applicants the ACT or SAT?

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Re: Meet JHU_Jacqueline-Las Vegas, NV
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2012, 06:19 AM »
I was wondering which exams does JHU requires from the applicants the ACT or SAT?

You can find that information right here:
Standardized Test Requirements: http://apply.jhu.edu/apply/testreqs.html